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I travel from Switzerland to Germany. I have a swiss halbtax and just purchased a Bahncard 25, but cannot cumulate them?

Was it worth purchasing the Bahncard if my only trips will be between Bern and Stuttgart?
Does the swiss halbtax work in Germany (partially)?
If the purchase of the Bahncard 25 is not worth, can I "cancel" it before it is used the first time?

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Hi,
You can use the halbtax card within Switzerland and for connection starting or ending in switzerland. Not for Tickets starting and ending in Germany.
For connections with start and end point in Germany you have to use the BahnCard. (Bahncard is valid for tickets from or to Germany)

Combining the cards is not possible.
Maybe you can save money if you book your tickets at DB with the Bc25

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Hi,
You can use the halbtax card within Switzerland and for connection starting or ending in switzerland. Not for Tickets starting and ending in Germany.
For connections with start and end point in Germany you have to use the BahnCard. (Bahncard is valid for tickets from or to Germany)

Combining the cards is not possible.
Maybe you can save money if you book your tickets at DB with the Bc25

Leo
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There is a normal fare / flexible fare / standard fare and a (super)saver fare. You can buy both at DB and SBB; in the SBB online store you can state both the SwissHalf Faree Card AND the bahncard for reduction, in the DB online store just EITHER.

Usually, saver fare tickets are a little cheaper when bought on the DB site.

If bought at DB: You get a very small reduction with a bahncard on these: 25% on the German part only. NO reduction at all on the Swiss part anyway.

If bought at SBB neither Bahncard25 nor HalfFare card give any reduction:

https://www.sbb.ch/en/travelcards-and-tickets/billette-in...

„Not combinable with other discounts (including the Half Fare travelcard or GA travelcard).“

For standard tickets you are entitled to the following discounts:

Swiss Half Fare Card only (bookable at both DB and SBB): 50% reduction in Switzerland and 15% in Germany.

Swiss Half Fare Card AND Bahncard25 (bookable online at SBB only!): 50% reduction in Switzerland and 25% in Germany.

So your Bahncard25 on top of the Half fare Card saves only an additional 10% - and therefore may probably make no sense unless you also use it for other journeys.

In Germany Standard Fares differ largely by train type, there are 3 fare levels:

  • regional trains only, no IC/EC or ICE
  • IC and regional trains, No ICE
  • all trains
  • Standard tariff-tickets sold for German trains in Switzerland are the same regardless of the train type, however!

    From Singen to Stuttgart the same train appears twice in the timetable, once as an IC and once as an RE, booked as an IC it costs 28,50€ with a Bahncard25 – but booked as an RE it costs only 17€ including a SINGLE trip to the fianl destination in Stuttgart on trams and buses. (You get the same under the name of „city ticket“ unlike in Switzerland free of charge but only for a single journey if booked at DB).

    Therefore, if booking a standard „flexible“ ticket at DB, the leg Singen-Stuttgart becomes much cheaper when booked separately from the Schaffhausen – Singen leg, for which an IC ticket must be booked if you want to use the thru train from Zurich to Stuttgart.

    N.B.: Beware of split bookings like that without bahncard25: The 15% discount on the half fare card is only granted for (according to the tariff!) international tickets, i.e. not for Schaffhausen-Singen, Singen-Stuttgart or Schaffhausen Singen.

    Now you can try many options…

    I would start with these for flexible standard-tariff tickets:

    1. Bern – Singen at SBB with swiss HalfFAre Card and Bahncard25
    2. Singen – Stuttgart at DB, REGIONAL TRAINS ONLY, with Bahncard25

    or:

    1. Bern – Schaffhausen at DB or SBB with Swiss Half Fare Card
    2. Schaffhausen – Singen at DB, IC TRAINS ONLY, with Bahncard25
    3. Singen – Stuttgart at DB, REGIONAL TRAINS ONLY, with Bahncard25

    (If you buy Schaffhausen – Stuttgart at DB you only need an IC ticket between Schaffhauen and Singen, but must pay the higher price for the remaining leg Singen – Stuttgart, even if you select regionals trains only!)

    If you can waste 35 minutes or so and are willing to change trains rather often in order to save only a small amounnt of money you can use a regional train between Schaffhausen and Singen and buy:


    1. Bern – Schaffhausen at DB or SBB with Swiss Half Fare Card
    2. Schaffhausen - Stuttgart at DB, REGIONAL TRAINS ONLY, with Bahncard25

    The route via Karlruhe is more straightforward but probably more expensive. The tariff border is Basel Bad, NOT Basel SBB. So if you split, in Basel Bad (to there with Half Fare Card, from there with Bahncard25).

Leo
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N.B.

Only split standard tariff tickets! If you miss a train booked on a saver ticket you may NOT use another train! If have a single thuru ticket, this is no problem. Neither ist ist for flexible tickets rally: You can use it on any train, but might get less or no compensation in case of severe delays.